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Julie-Ann
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27 Sep 2016 13:54 |
Can anybody help me locate any members of the family of a Moses Stanworth. I understand he was an officer in the 4th Army (but deceased by 1942). He had a son called John William Stanworth born approx 1918 who was a private in the Kings Shropshire Light Infantry.
Any information would be much appreciated.
Regards Julie
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PricklyHolly
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27 Sep 2016 14:08 |
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Births Jun 1917 (>99%) Stanworth John W Beddow Whitchurch S 6a 992
I'm not seeing a marriage to fit with this birth.
Do you know his mothers name?
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PricklyHolly
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27 Sep 2016 14:56 |
Now that we are on the right track........I have deleted the info regarding Richard Stanworth.
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Julie-Ann
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27 Sep 2016 15:53 |
According to the Marriage Certificate of John William Stanworth to my grandmother Linda B Tombs in 1942 his father was Moses Stanworth deceased. My grandmother died in 1971 and my father knows nothing. The information which I provided earlier is all the information which I have for certain from the marriage Certificate of 1942.
We had found the information of John William Stanworth to a mother Beddow (maiden name). She married a Hall then married a Stanworth. We think.
This is the only likelyhood that we have found so far but are not sure if on the right track.
Regards Julie
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safc
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27 Sep 2016 15:58 |
Moses Stanworth on the 1939 Register
1939 Register Transcription
Stanworth Household (4 People) 12 George Street , Whitchurch U.D., Shropshire, England Attach to tree View original image Print First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number Moses Stanworth 08 May 1883 Male General Labourer Married 177 1 Edith M Stanworth 06 Sep 1891 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 177 2 Herbert M Stanworth 04 Dec 1922 Male General Labourer Single 177 3 George E Stanworth 19 Jun 1925 Male Seeking Work Not Previously Employed Single 177 4
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PricklyHolly
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27 Sep 2016 16:02 |
That would be this marriage......
Marriages Dec 1915 (>99%) Hall Edith M Stanworth Whitchurch S. 6a 2016 Stanworth Moses Hall Whitchurch S. 6a 2016
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PricklyHolly
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27 Sep 2016 16:34 |
Something doesn't quite add up.
Just posting this while I look around.
Edith Mabel Hall in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1837-1915 Name: Edith Mabel Hall Registration Year: 1891 Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Registration district: Whitchurch Inferred County: Shropshire Volume: 6a Page: 692
Edith Mabel Hall in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 Name: Edith Mabel Hall Gender: Female Baptism Date: 18 Sep 1891 Baptism Place: Whitchurch, Shropshire, England Mother: Henrietta Hall
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PricklyHolly
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27 Sep 2016 16:52 |
Well this appears to be the death of the Moses Stanworth born 1883
Moses Stanworth in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Moses Stanworth Birth Date: abt 1883 Date of Registration: Sep 1943 Age at Death: 60 Registration district:Birmingham Inferred County: Warwickshire Volume: 6d Page: 438
( So this Moses was alive of the time of the 1942 marriage you mentioned)
And this is possibly the death of Edith.......although her birth year is out by 2 years
Edith M Stanworth in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Edith M Stanworth Birth Date: abt 1889 Date of Registration: Jun 1941 Age at Death: 52 Registration district: Birmingham Inferred County: Warwickshire Volume: 6d Page: 17
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PricklyHolly
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27 Sep 2016 17:07 |
Two siblings for John.........
Births Sep 1920 (>99%) Stanworth Rachel _ Beddow Whitchurch S 6a 1348
Births Jun 1925 (>99%) Stanworth George E Beddow Whitchurch S. 6a 1100
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AustinQ
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27 Sep 2016 17:31 |
It is the correct marriage- she was born Hall, brought up Beddow:
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 4, Venables Yard, Whitchurch, Whitchurch Urban, Shropshire, England
Thomas Beddow Head Married Male 40 1861 General Laborer Manchester, Lancashire, Henrietta Beddow Wife Married Female 29 1872 - Whitchurch, Shropshire, Edith M Beddow Daughter Single Female 10 1891 - Whitchurch, Shropshire, John T Beddow Son Single Male 6 1895 - Whitchurch, Shropshire, England William Beddow Son Single Male 4 1897 - Whitchurch, Shropshire, England John Jones Lodger Married Male 71 1830 Drainer Laborer Whitchurch, Shropshire, England
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AustinQ
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27 Sep 2016 17:32 |
Edith's mother's marriage:
First name(s) Henrietta Last name Hall Birth year 1872 Marriage year 1892 Marriage date 29 Feb 1892 Marriage place Whitchurch Denomination Anglican Residence Whitchurch Age 20 Father's first name(s) Thomas Father's last name Hall Spouse's first name(s) Thomas Spouse's last name Beddow Spouse's residence Whitchurch Spouse's age 28 Spouse's father's first name(s) John Spouse's father's last name Beddow County Shropshire Register date range 1871-1892 Archive reference P303/A/3/8 Page 250 Register type Marriage Record set Shropshire marriages
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AustinQ
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27 Sep 2016 17:45 |
Moses first wife, Ada May (nee Bowen) died in 1915:
Death: First name(s) ADA M Last name STANWORTH Gender Female Birth year 1879 Age 36 Death quarter 2 Death year 1915 District WELLINGTON (SHROPSHIRE) County Shropshire Volume 6A Page 916
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ArgyllGran
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27 Sep 2016 17:47 |
So - finding living relatives of Moses Stanworth.
Death of George:
George E Stanworth in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: George E Stanworth Birth Date: abt 1925 Date of Registration: Sep 1960 Age at Death: 35 Registration district: Birmingham Inferred County: Warwickshire Volume: 9c Page: 44
I don't see a marriage for him, at least not with his middle initial.
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PricklyHolly
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27 Sep 2016 17:51 |
Well done Austin
How confusing is that!
Herbert has the MMN of Hall
Births Mar 1923 (>99%) Stanworth Herbert M Hall Whitchurch S. 6a 1130
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AustinQ
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27 Sep 2016 17:51 |
Looks like he does move to Birmingham- he's on the electoral register with son George E:
1945: 643 Kings Road, Perry Barr: Moses Stanworth Alfred J Jackson Ellen J Jackson
1947 643 Kings Road, Perry Barr Alfred J Jackson Ellen J Jackson George E Stanworth Moses Stanworth Minnie Rowlands
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PricklyHolly
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27 Sep 2016 17:55 |
Herbert Moses Stanworth in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Herbert Moses Stanworth Birth Date: 4 Dec 1922 Date of Registration: Jun 1977 Age at Death: 54 Registration district: Birmingham Inferred County: West Midlands Volume: 32 Page: 1366
. Herbert M Stanworth in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005 Name: Herbert M Stanworth Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1946 Registration district: Birmingham Inferred County: Warwickshire Spouse: Dorothy I Taylor Volume Number: 9c Page Number: 856
Two daughters were born to the Stanworth/Taylor marriage
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ArgyllGran
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27 Sep 2016 17:56 |
George's sister Rachel has a virtually indecipherable middle initial on her birth record, which might be N.
If so, this could be her marriage:
Marriages Mar 1942 (>99%) Daniels Harold Stanworth Bolton 8c 831 Stanworth Rachel N Daniels Bolton 8c 831
And her death:
Rachel Nellie Daniels in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Rachel Nellie Daniels Birth Date: 26 Aug 1920 Date of Registration: Mar 2007 Age at Death: 87 Registration district: Bolton Inferred County: Lancashire, Lincolnshire Volume: -1 Page: -1 Register Number: 1C001 District and Subdistrict: 002/1C Entry Number: 004
There were 6 Daniels / Stanworth births between 1942 and 1955, per FreeBMD -two in Farnworth, and the rest in Bolton. None with particularly distinctive first names, unfortunately.
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PricklyHolly
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27 Sep 2016 22:04 |
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 8 St John's Street Whitchurch Shropshire, Whitchurch Urban, Shropshire, England
Thomes Beddow Head Married Male Labourer 59 1852 Bronington Flintshire Henrietta Beddow Wife Married Female Worker 39 1872 Whitchurch Salop Edith Mable Beddow Daughter Single Female Servant Domestic 19 1892 Whitchurch Salop Thomes Beddow Son Single Male - 16 1895 Whitchurch Salop William Beddow Son - Male School Part Time 13 1898 Whitchurch Salop George Beddow Son - Male School Part Time 6 1905 Whitchurch Salop
A big difference between Thomas Beddow's age and place of birth compared to the 1901 census.
Married 19 years......4 children born and living.
Thomas aged 16......is actually John Thomas.......
John Thomas Beddow in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 Name: John Thomas Beddow Gender: Male Baptism Date: 7 Apr 1895 Baptism Place: Whitchurch, Shropshire, England Father: Thomas Beddow Mother: Henrietta
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28 Sep 2016 08:11 |
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Venabless Yard, High Street, Whitchurch, Shropshire, England
Thomas Hall Head Married Male 64 1827 General Labourer Whitchurch, Shropshire, England Mary A Hall Wife Married Female 61 1830 Charwoman Whitchurch, Shropshire, Henrietta Hall Daughter Single Female 20 1871 General Servant Whitchurch, Shropshire, England Mary Jane Hall Daughter Single Female 7 1884 Scholar Whitchurch, Shropshire, England Jane Pitchford Lodger Single Female 27 1864 General Servant Wellington, Shropshire, England
I very much doubt that Mary Jane Hall is Thomas and Mary A's daughter!
England & Wales births 1837-2006 Transcription First name(s) HENRIETTA Last name HALL Birth year 1871 Birth quarter 2 District WHITCHURCH (SHROPSHIRE) County Shropshire Country England Volume 6A Page 771
Shropshire baptisms Transcription First name(s) Henrietta Last name Hall Birth year- Baptism year 1871 Baptism date 06 Aug 1871 Denomination Anglican Place Whitchurch Father's first name(s) Thomas Mother's first name(s) Marianne County Shropshire Register type Baptism
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28 Sep 2016 08:40 |
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 8 West View Terrace St George's Wellington Shropshire, Wrockwardine Wood, Shropshire, England
Moses Stanworth Head Married Male Coal Miner Filler Underground 26 1885 Salop Granville St Georges Ada May Stanworth Wife Married Female - 30 1881 Salop Oakingates
Married 5 years.........No children
Moses Stanworth in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915 Name: Moses Stanworth Spouse: Ada May Bowen Registration Year: 1905 Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Registration district: Wellington Inferred County: Shropshire Volume: 6a Page: 1532
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription (Pascalls Buildings), West Street, St Georges, Wrockwardine Wood, Wellington, Shropshire, England
John Stanworth Head Married Male 44 1857 Shunter On Railway Tipton, Staffordshire Emma Stanworth Wife Married Female 47 1854 - St Georges, Shropshire Frank Eccleshall Son Single Male 24 1877 Coal Mine Labourer Above Ground St Georges, Shropshire Eliza Eccleshall Daughter Single Female 23 1878 Dressmaker St Georges, Shropshire Clement L Eccleshall Son Single Male 21 1880 General Labourer St Georges, Shropshire Moses Stanworth Son Single Male 17 1884 Coal Mine Labourer Above Ground St Georges, Shropshire
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription West Street, Wrockwardine Wood, Wellington, Shropshire, England
John Stanworth Head Married Male 34 1857 Railway Engine Stoker Tipton, Staffordshire, Emma Stanworth Wife Married Female 36 1855 - St Georges, Shropshire, England Annie Stanworth Daughter - Female 10 1881 Scholar St Georges, Shropshire, Clara Stanworth Daughter - Female 9 1882 Scholar St Georges, Shropshire, Moses Stanworth Son - Male 7 1884 Scholar St Georges, Shropshire, England Frank Eccleshall Stepson - Male 14 1877 Errand Boy St Georges, Shropshire, Eliza A Eccleshall Stepdaughter - Female 13 1878 Scholar St Georges, Shropshire, Clement L Eccleshall Stepson - Male 11 1880 Scholar St Georges, Shropshire,
Moses Stanworth in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1837-1915 Name: Moses Stanworth Registration Year: 1883 Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Registration district: Wellington Sal Inferred County: Shropshire Volume: 6a Page: 801
Emma was John's second wife......
Marriages Sep 1888 (>99%) Eccleshall Emma Newport S 6a 1208 STANWORTH John Newport Sh. 6a 1208
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