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William Davison born abt 1865 Scotswood

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Paul

Paul Report 28 Oct 2024 15:47

Hi
I have arrived back at the 1871 census with my Davison ( Davidson on 1871 census) line and am unable to get back further.
I am looking for the birth record for William born abt 1865 Scotswood and a marriage (if this happened of course) for his parents Joesph and Isabella (surname unknown). Here is the 1871 census.. any help with this would be most appreciated.
Thank you
Jack

William Davidson
in the 1871 England Census

Name William Davidson
Age 6
Estimated Birth Year 1865
Relation Son
Gender Male
Where born Soctswood, Northumberland, England
Civil parish Benwell
Ecclesiastical parish Benwell St James
Town Scottswood
County/Island Northumberland
Country England
Registration district Newcastle Upon Tyne
Sub-registration district Westgate
ED, institution, or vessel 36
Household schedule number 112
Piece 5083
Folio 55
Page number 22
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Joseph Davidson 47 Head
Isabella Davidson 43 Wife
Mary Davidson 23 Daughter
Isabella Davidson 19 Daughter
Margret Davidson 11 Daughter
William Davidson 6 Son
Isabella Davidson 2 Daughter

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Oct 2024 16:08

First point………birth may not have been registered, as there were no penalties for not doing so until 1875. Have you looked?

The GRO site is FREE and gives MMN on all records

Second point……..have you tried looking for marriage of the parents on freebmd?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Oct 2024 16:16

I would think there’s an error on 1871. Hardly likely for the couple to have two daughters named Isabella and alive

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 28 Oct 2024 16:16

Are the parents and older children on the 1861 census and have you found any baptisms for any of the other children?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Oct 2024 16:22

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Scotswood Village, Benwell, Newcastle upon Tyne, Northumberland, England

Joseph Davidson Head Married Male 36 1825 Waterman Benwell, Northumberland, England
Isabella Davidson Wife - Female 35 1826 - Newburn, Northumberland, England
Mary A Davidson Daughter Unmarried Female 13 1848 Scholar Benwell, Northumberland, England
Isabella Davidson Daughter - Female 10 1851 Scholar Portswood, Northumberland, England
Margaret E Davidson Daughter - Female 1 1860 - Portswood, Northumberland, England


Paul

Paul Report 28 Oct 2024 16:22

I have got back to 1871 so 1861 census not as yet located.
No baptisms found for other children on 1871 census
I havent found a marriage for a Joseph Davidson or Davison and an Isabella
There appear to be a number of William's born around 1865 in Newcastle reg district so without MMN i dont know which is the correct one

Paul

Paul Report 28 Oct 2024 16:23

1861
Thank you Erika :-D

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Oct 2024 16:30

There are several possible marriages on freebmd

Paul

Paul Report 28 Oct 2024 16:31

ok thank you
i will have a look :-)

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Oct 2024 16:33

This is the younger child, Isabella..........illegitimate, and probably Mary's child

DAVIDSON, ISABELLA -
GRO Reference: 1869 M Quarter in NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE Volume 10B Page 1

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 28 Oct 2024 16:39

Several of the William births are on www.freereg.org.uk.
But I didn’t spot one with those parents.

If Isabella is Mary’s child, could William also be one?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Oct 2024 16:43

Can't as yet see any of them in 1851

Odds are the births weren't registered...

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 28 Oct 2024 17:25

From Freereg (but nothing on GRO):


County Northumberland
Place (Links to more information) Benwell
Church name (Links to more information) St James
Register type (Links to more information) Other Transcript
Register entry number 1101
Baptism date 23 Oct 1859
Person forename Margaret Elizabeth
Person sex ?
Father forename Joseph
Mother forename Isabella
Father surname DAVISON
Person abode Scotswood
Father occupation Waterman
Transcribed by Susan Mcginty
File line number 945

Paul

Paul Report 28 Oct 2024 17:27

William Davidson

in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1837-1915
View England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1837-1915

Name William Davidson
Registration Date 1865
Quarter of the Year Apr-May-Jun
Registration Place Newcastle upon Tyne, Northumberland, England
Volume 10b
Page 23
MMN Graham

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Oct 2024 17:30

Check for other childrens’ births with same MMN on the GRO site

Paul

Paul Report 28 Oct 2024 17:30

Marriages Jun 1848 (>99%)
Cardwell Eleanor Marianna Newcastle T 25 429 Scan available - click to view
DAVISON George Newcastle T 25 429 Scan available - click to view
DAVISON Joseph Newcastle T 25 429 Scan available - click to view
Graham Isabella Newcastle Tyne 25 429 Scan available - click to view
HARDMAN Mary Ann Newcastle T 25 429 Scan available - click to view
HENDERSON Hannah Newcastle T. 25 429 Scan available - click to view
OLIVER Alexander Newcastle T 25 429 Scan available - click to view
SMITH Thomas Newcastle T 25 429 Scan available - click to view

Paul

Paul Report 28 Oct 2024 17:30

HOORAH!!

Paul

Paul Report 28 Oct 2024 18:30

Thank you for your help
:-)

alviegal

alviegal Report 29 Oct 2024 13:00

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
27, Chapel Terrace, Benwell, Newcastle upon Tyne, Northumberland, England

Household members (4 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Joseph Davison Head
Married Male 57 1824 Waterman Benwell, Northumberland, England
Isabella Davison Wife
Married Female 54 1827 Waterman wife Newburn, Northumberland, England
William Davison Son
Single Male 16 1865 Paper maker Benwell, Northumberland, England
Isabella Davison Grand daughter
Single Female 12 1869 Waterman gr daur Newcastle on Tyne, Northumberland, England


and a possible for Isabella Graham with her family. Obviously needs checked out thoroughly before accepting it.

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Scotswood Village, Newburn, Castle Ward, Northumberland, England

Household members (5 people)
First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place
Philip Graham Male 44 1797 Northumberland, England
Mary Graham Female 36 1805 -
>>Isabel Graham Female 14 1827 Northumberland, England
Margaret Heppell Female 5 1836 -
Richard Bell Graham Male 1 1840 -


and her baptism

First name(s) Isabella
Country England
Last name Graham
Archive Durham University Library
Archive reference DDR/EA/PBT/2/187
Baptism year 1827
Document type Bishop's Transcripts
Baptism date 06 May 1827
Register type Baptisms, marriages & burials
Father's first name(s) Philip
Father's occupation Labourer
Page 259
>>Mother's first name(s) Isabella
Record set Northumberland Baptisms
Residence Dumpling Hall
Place Newburn



First name(s) Philip
Spouse's marital status Widow
Last name Graham
First witness John Brookbank
Residence Newburn
Second witness William Moore
Marital status Widower
Licence or banns Licence
Marriage year 1838
Record type Bishop's Transcripts
Marriage date 04 Aug 1838
Archive Durham University Library
Denomination Anglican
Archive reference DDR/EA/PBT/2/187
Place Newburn
County Northumberland
Register year range 1819-1856
Country England
Record set Northumberland Marriages
Spouse's first name(s) Mary Ann
Spouse's last name Heppell
Spouse's residence Newburn

alviegal

alviegal Report 29 Oct 2024 13:27

Mary Ann's birth?

GRAHAM, MARY ANN -
GRO Reference: 1847 S Quarter in CASTLE WARD UNION Volume 25 Page 247