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William, his children have already been found ....

Thank you allfor your info i,m really grateful and i am now on the right path and have found alfred,i will continue to look for his children and connect them to my tree. thank,s

I suppose it depends what you are looking for William.


William, Alfred, and Robert are mentioned in MarieCeleste's post above.



There is also the possibility that these were William's siblings below: The mother's maiden name is Parkinson; they were born in Barrow and, the numbers at the side are the reference numbers in case you want to purchase the birth certificates at some time.


Births Mar 1913
Oldfield Betsy M Parkinson Barrow F. 8e 1428

Births Mar 1916
Oldfield Elsie Parkinson Barrow F. 8e 1176

Births Jun 1918
Oldfield Ethel M Parkinson Barrow F. 8e 997


If you are looking for possible connections on Genes Reunited William, the best thing to do is to click on the Search button at the top and then put the names you are researching into the Search Trees box to see if anyone else is researching the same family. If you find a connection, you can contact the tree owner.

Hope this helps. Cx

William - what is confusing?

If it's dates on Alfred's service record then I wouldn't worry too much about that - the records are terribly old and faded and look like parts of them have been inked over at some time.

this is confusing my father was born in culcheth,leigh as i have his birth cert 1906 he died 1978 his father came from leigh in lancs he had brothers and sisters ethel,betsey,brothers alf,robert maybe more i do not know.

Hello William and welcome to the community boards. :-D



William was quite correct when he mentioned Culcheth and Leigh in the same breath. They are within 3 miles of each other and Culcheth was once a sub-district of Leigh. Until 1974, Culcheth was in Lancashire but was moved to Cheshire by local government reorganisation. I am local to the area. ;-)

His service record:

British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920 about Alfred Oldfield
Name: Alfred Oldfield
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Age at enlistment: 35
Residence: 6H Ship St, Barrow-in-Furness
Document Year: 1918
Regimental Number: 61083
Number of images: 21

EDIT:
He enlisted 10/12/1915 in the 1st Btn York and Lancs Regiment. Eventually discharged 26/03/1920 due to defective vision. Not much detail regarding where he served, a few minor misdemeanors (not having gas respirator, quitting billet, rusty equipment, missing roll call).

Wife Hannah Parkinson married 22/04/1907

Children
William Wildman born 08/07/1907 Leigh
Alfred 30/10/1909 Bolton
Robert 26/12/1910 Outwood
?? Morris 26/01/1913 Barrow in Furness
????? 24/12/1915 ""
??Ethel?? 07/04/1918 ""

One odd thing, in April 1920 he wrote to the regiment asking for a copy of his medical records as he's been accused of having a venereal disease and he wanted them to prove he hadn't. The regiment were unable to comply because his records had been forwarded on.

Marriages Mar 1880 (>99%)
BAYNES Betsy Lancaster 8e 900
Leeson Charles Lancaster 8e 900
Oldfield Alfred Lancaster 8e 900
Peel Annie Lancaster 8e 900

Baptisms: 5 Aug 1859 St Mary,
Lancaster, Lancashire, England
Betsy Baynes - Child of William Wildman Baynes & Elizabeth Harrison
Born: 21 Jul 1859
Abode: King Streeet
Occupation: Blacksmith
Baptised by: J Palmour, Curate
Register: Baptisms 1852 - 1859, Page 284, Entry 2265
Source: LDS Film 1526200

Births Mar 1906
Oldfield Betsey Barrow F. 8e 809


Deaths Dec 1906
Oldfield Betsey 0 Leigh 8c 177

The 1881 census is FREE, and you should be able to find Alfred on there with his parents

Baptisms: 7 Nov 1880 St Mary, Lancaster, Lancashire, England
Alfred Oldfield - Child of Alfred Oldfield & Betsy
Born: 1 Oct
Abode: 1 Denis Street
Occupation: Dyer
Baptised by: John Allen
Register: Baptisms 1870 - 1882, Page 366, Entry 2926
Source: LDS Film 1526200

You can use Lancsbmd to look for their births

it's a FREE site.............

http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/

Groom's Name: Alfred Oldfield
Groom's Birth Date: 1881
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age: 24
Bride's Name: Hannah Parkinson
Bride's Birth Date: 1886
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age: 19
Marriage Date: 22 Apr 1905
Marriage Place: St. John Evangelist, Barrow, Lancashire, England
Groom's Father's Name: Alfred Oldfield
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name: Francis Parkinson
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status:
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M17178-1
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1472012
Reference Number: item 5

1911 England Census about Alfred Oldfield
Name: Alfred Oldfield
Age in 1911: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Lancaster, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Outwood
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 4 Parsonage Row Prestolee Stoneclough Nr Manchester
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Coal Cleaner At The
Registration district: Bury
Registration District Number: 462
Sub-registration district: Whitefield
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Piece: 23549
Household Members:
Name Age
Alfred Oldfield 31
Hannah Oldfield 25
William Wildman Oldfield 4
Alfred Oldfield 2
Robert Oldfield 1
Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 23549; ; .


married 6 years 4 children i died

A Betsy age 1was included but crossed through as deceased

1911 census


Person: OLDFIELD, Alfred Address: 3 Parsonage Row Prestolee Outwood Stoneclough Near Manchester
Cost


OLDFIELD, Alfred Head Married M 31 1880 Coal Cleaner At The Coal Pit Surface Lancaster Lancashire VIEW
OLDFIELD, Hannah Wife F 25 1886 Lancaster Lancs VIEW
OLDFIELD, William Wildman Son M 4 1907 Lancs Astley VIEW
OLDFIELD, Alfred Son M 2 1909 Lancs Little Lever VIEW
OLDFIELD, Robert Son M 1 1910 Lancs Pretolee

1911 ?
Name: Alfred Oldfield
Age in 1911: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Lancaster, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Outwood
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 4 Parsonage Row Prestolee Stoneclough Nr Manchester
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Coal Cleaner At The
Registration district: Bury
Registration District Number: 462
Sub-registration district: Whitefield
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Piece: 23549
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred Oldfield 31
Hannah Oldfield 25
William Wildman Oldfield 4
Alfred Oldfield 2
Robert Oldfield 1

Marriages Jun 1905 (>99%)
EVANS Annie Barrow F. 8e 1702
HARKINS Hugh Barrow F. 8e 1702
Oldfield Alfred Barrow F 8e 1702
Parkinson Hannah Barrow F 8e 1702

Find the marriage on freebmd, so you can give some date info about the people concerned

How was their son's name Wildman?

Culcheth is Warrington.....not Leigh

:-S

Oldfield married Parkinson but son was Wildman ?